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August 02, 2010

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timo

how well are vfilers supported in a vmwarenetapp modell?

we know the VCS is cool, and shows the allocated netapp ressources within vCenter, but is that true to vfilers?

Kevin Stay

Faster? Great.

Greener? I really could not care less.

My big question is how does the introduction of "load balanced teams" in vSphere 4.1 impact NFS architecture and performance?

In TR-3749 release 2 we have to have a bunch of IP address aliases and multiple volumes and map that one each in VMware. Does the new load balancing based on NIC load in a virtual port group get rid of the need for all that setup on the filer while still maintaining load balance and the same level of performance?

If so then NFS on NetApp just became even more of a slam dunk obvious choice for VMware environments.

Vaughn Stewart

@Timo - Yes, vFilers are supported

@Kevin - With ESX/ESXi the NFS client relies on the hypervisor routing table, thus we recommend 1GbE environments use multiple subnets to increase total bandwidth available to the hypervisor. This recommendation does not apply to 10GbE environments today, and will be addressed in a future release of ESXi.

Neil_ViFX

There is no Raid-DP support on vfilers when virtualising existing storage. Given most of the performance benefit looks to come from Raid-DP, isnt your comment re organising a test run using legacy hardware and a vFiler flawed ?

Roger Weeks

Neil, I don't understand your question. All volumes in a NetApp system that are built on RAID-DP are protected by RAID-DP. This includes volumes owned by vfilers.

There is no way to disassociate a volume owned by a vfiler from the underlying RAID mechanism in Data ONTAP.

Roger Weeks

Never mind. I can't read this morning, apparently. You're meaning a vfiler on a NetApp V-Series system in front of existing FC SAN storage.

Roger Weeks

@timo: When using vfilers in a VSphere environment and with the VSC 2.0 plugin, you see resources allocated on a per-vfiler basis.

Richard Shepherd

I think Neil was meaning V-Series (not vfiler). i.e. when you put a V-series in front of your existing 'traditional' array, there's no RAID-DP - it's the 'traditional' array's RAID (5 or 10, say) at the bottom, with the V-Series simply doing RAID-0 across the top of the backend-LUNs within each aggregate. Benefits derived from dedup still apply in this scenario though.

Neil_ViFX

I was meaning vSeries Filer (the disk-less version). You cant just put that in front of your existing storage and expect similar performance gains as indicated. You will get SOME gains, sure (from PAMII), but most of the performance benefit from NetApp comes from Raid-DP.

Dimitris Krekoukias

Hi Neil,

Actually, RAID-DP by itself is not the performance booster, it's mostly the way we write (WAFL).

Several customers get much better performance with V-Series than without...

D

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Jordan 13

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